LADDER Updated

Wheelo Ratings
Graft
Squiggle
The Footycast
Matter of Stats
Informed Stats
Live Ladders
AFL Lab
PlusSixOne
AFLalytics
What Snoo Thinks
ZaphBot
Stattraction
Glicko Ratings
Elo Predicts!
Winnable
Don't Blame the Data

After Round 8, 2025. Click teams to reveal detailed projections.

Wins % Range
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Collingwood 16.2 128%
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Brisbane Lions 16.3 115%
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Geelong 15.5 124%
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Western Bulldogs 15.2 127%
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Hawthorn 15.0 117%
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Adelaide 13.9 120%
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Gold Coast 13.6 116%
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GWS 12.4 111%
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Sydney 11.8 106%
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Carlton 11.3 108%
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St Kilda 11.3 97%
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Fremantle 11.2 98%
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Port Adelaide 10.6 92%
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Essendon 9.8 87%
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Melbourne 8.2 83%
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Richmond 6.0 71%
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North Melbourne 5.1 76%
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West Coast 3.2 65%
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Wheelo Ratings
14.9 125%
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Graft
14.4 122%
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Squiggle
14.3 126%
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The Footycast
14.1 125%
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Matter of Stats
14.4 123%
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Informed Stats
14.2 123%
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Live Ladders
13.7 118%
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AFL Lab
13.7 115%
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PlusSixOne
13.7
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AFLalytics
12.0 109%
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What Snoo Thinks
13.6 115%
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ZaphBot
13.2 115%
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Stattraction
12.8 112%
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Glicko Ratings
13.3 116%
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Elo Predicts!
13.2 118%
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Winnable
12.7 112%
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Don't Blame the Data
12.7 111%
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Elo Predicts!
18.8 116%
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ZaphBot
17.3 118%
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Informed Stats
16.9 119%
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PlusSixOne
15.9
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Don't Blame the Data
15.9 116%
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AFL Lab
16.8 115%
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Stattraction
15.8 119%
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The Footycast
15.6 114%
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Wheelo Ratings
16.0 113%
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Matter of Stats
16.0 114%
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AFLalytics
13.2 118%
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Live Ladders
15.9 112%
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Graft
15.6 110%
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Winnable
15.8 115%
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Squiggle
15.5 113%
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Glicko Ratings
15.1 110%
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What Snoo Thinks
14.5 107%
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Glicko Ratings
13.5 122%
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Winnable
13.0 119%
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Stattraction
12.4 110%
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Matter of Stats
12.0 111%
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Live Ladders
11.0 105%
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What Snoo Thinks
12.1 114%
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Wheelo Ratings
11.6 108%
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Elo Predicts!
12.0 109%
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Don't Blame the Data
11.9 116%
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Graft
11.5 108%
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AFLalytics
10.6 101%
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The Footycast
11.3 110%
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AFL Lab
10.9 105%
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Squiggle
10.9 107%
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PlusSixOne
11.3
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Informed Stats
10.2 102%
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ZaphBot
10.0 101%
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What Snoo Thinks
17.2 131%
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Stattraction
17.0 132%
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Glicko Ratings
17.3 134%
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Don't Blame the Data
16.6 135%
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Winnable
17.2 134%
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Live Ladders
16.3 128%
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Graft
16.3 128%
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Squiggle
16.3 137%
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Matter of Stats
16.8 133%
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The Footycast
15.7 131%
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AFL Lab
16.5 124%
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Wheelo Ratings
16.0 126%
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Elo Predicts!
17.7 127%
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PlusSixOne
15.4
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Informed Stats
15.6 125%
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ZaphBot
14.8 116%
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AFLalytics
11.6 110%
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Glicko Ratings
10.5 92%
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AFLalytics
10.3 94%
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Don't Blame the Data
10.7 90%
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Live Ladders
10.6 90%
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Squiggle
10.4 87%
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Wheelo Ratings
10.0 87%
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Winnable
10.0 88%
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Informed Stats
10.0 87%
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PlusSixOne
10.3
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AFL Lab
10.4 92%
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Stattraction
10.2 92%
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What Snoo Thinks
10.3 92%
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Matter of Stats
9.4 84%
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The Footycast
9.8 85%
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Graft
9.8 87%
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ZaphBot
9.1 85%
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Elo Predicts!
7.2 86%
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PlusSixOne
12.2
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Winnable
12.5 105%
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Stattraction
12.3 105%
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Don't Blame the Data
12.3 104%
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AFLalytics
10.8 97%
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The Footycast
11.4 98%
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Glicko Ratings
12.8 107%
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What Snoo Thinks
11.8 103%
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Live Ladders
11.4 98%
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Wheelo Ratings
11.1 97%
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Informed Stats
10.5 95%
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ZaphBot
11.5 100%
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Squiggle
11.2 98%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
12
Graft
11.2 98%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
12
Matter of Stats
10.9 96%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
12
AFL Lab
10.4 95%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
13
Elo Predicts!
10.3 98%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
13
What Snoo Thinks
15.8 125%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
2
Live Ladders
15.7 124%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
2
Squiggle
15.4 130%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
2
ZaphBot
15.8 122%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
3
Elo Predicts!
17.1 124%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
3
The Footycast
15.1 129%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
3
AFL Lab
15.7 121%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
3
Wheelo Ratings
15.6 124%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
3
PlusSixOne
15.0
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
3
AFLalytics
12.8 121%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
3
Matter of Stats
15.9 127%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
4
Graft
15.1 120%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
4
Winnable
14.5 123%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
5
Informed Stats
14.6 119%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
5
Glicko Ratings
14.7 123%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
5
Stattraction
14.0 115%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
6
Don't Blame the Data
14.1 122%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
6
Don't Blame the Data
14.8 119%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
3
Glicko Ratings
15.1 123%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
4
Stattraction
14.6 125%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
5
ZaphBot
13.7 115%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
5
Squiggle
13.9 120%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
6
Winnable
14.1 118%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
6
Elo Predicts!
13.4 115%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
6
Live Ladders
14.0 117%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
7
Wheelo Ratings
14.4 119%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
7
Informed Stats
14.3 119%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
7
Matter of Stats
13.8 117%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
7
Graft
13.4 114%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
7
AFL Lab
13.0 110%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
7
The Footycast
12.7 115%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
7
AFLalytics
11.9 109%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
7
PlusSixOne
12.9
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
7
What Snoo Thinks
13.3 112%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
8
AFLalytics
12.8 113%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
4
What Snoo Thinks
14.2 117%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
6
ZaphBot
13.3 113%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
6
Don't Blame the Data
12.8 111%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
7
Live Ladders
12.8 112%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
8
Graft
12.7 112%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
8
The Footycast
12.4 113%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
8
Matter of Stats
12.7 112%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
8
Wheelo Ratings
12.6 111%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
8
Informed Stats
12.8 113%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
8
Squiggle
12.0 110%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
8
Glicko Ratings
13.2 114%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
9
PlusSixOne
12.0
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
9
AFL Lab
11.8 106%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
9
Elo Predicts!
12.2 110%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
9
Winnable
12.2 107%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
10
Stattraction
12.2 109%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
10
AFLalytics
13.3 118%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
1
ZaphBot
16.3 121%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
2
Informed Stats
16.2 126%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
3
Live Ladders
15.0 117%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
4
Don't Blame the Data
14.5 117%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
4
Stattraction
14.9 117%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
4
Winnable
14.8 117%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
4
Elo Predicts!
16.4 117%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
5
Matter of Stats
15.0 117%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
5
The Footycast
14.3 116%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
5
What Snoo Thinks
14.4 113%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
5
AFL Lab
14.5 112%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
5
PlusSixOne
14.3
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
5
Wheelo Ratings
14.7 115%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
6
Graft
14.3 112%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
6
Glicko Ratings
14.3 113%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
6
Squiggle
14.0 114%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
7
AFLalytics
10.3 96%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
14
Informed Stats
9.2 87%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
14
PlusSixOne
9.0
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
15
AFL Lab
8.7 88%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
15
Squiggle
8.6 82%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
15
Wheelo Ratings
7.8 81%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
15
Live Ladders
8.5 85%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
15
The Footycast
8.6 81%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
15
Winnable
7.8 81%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
15
Graft
8.2 83%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
15
Matter of Stats
7.6 80%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
15
Glicko Ratings
7.6 80%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
15
Don't Blame the Data
7.9 78%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
15
ZaphBot
8.1 85%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
15
Stattraction
7.7 79%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
15
Elo Predicts!
5.9 84%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
15
What Snoo Thinks
6.6 79%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
16
ZaphBot
6.3 83%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
16
Squiggle
6.1 78%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
16
AFLalytics
8.4 80%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
17
PlusSixOne
5.3
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
17
Glicko Ratings
5.6 76%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
17
Wheelo Ratings
5.1 78%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
17
Winnable
5.6 73%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
17
Matter of Stats
4.8 75%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
17
The Footycast
6.0 76%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
17
Graft
5.3 78%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
17
Don't Blame the Data
5.7 72%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
17
Stattraction
5.2 70%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
17
Elo Predicts!
3.0 75%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
17
Live Ladders
5.0 76%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
17
AFL Lab
4.4 77%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
17
Informed Stats
4.4 73%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
17
What Snoo Thinks
4.3 71%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
17
ZaphBot
11.6 96%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
11
Elo Predicts!
11.4 97%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
11
AFLalytics
10.3 91%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
11
Don't Blame the Data
11.1 97%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
12
Stattraction
11.4 100%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
12
AFL Lab
11.2 96%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
12
Winnable
11.1 96%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
12
What Snoo Thinks
11.0 98%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
12
PlusSixOne
11.2
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
13
Glicko Ratings
10.2 92%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
13
The Footycast
10.6 91%
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
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Matter of Stats
10.2 90%
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Graft
10.4 91%
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Squiggle
10.2 88%
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Live Ladders
10.4 90%
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Wheelo Ratings
9.8 88%
1
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Informed Stats
9.1 85%
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What Snoo Thinks
6.8 75%
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AFLalytics
9.7 83%
1
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PlusSixOne
7.0
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AFL Lab
6.6 77%
1
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The Footycast
7.1 71%
1
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Matter of Stats
5.8 69%
1
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Wheelo Ratings
5.7 70%
1
2
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14
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Informed Stats
5.7 70%
1
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Glicko Ratings
5.7 68%
1
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5
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11
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Winnable
5.9 68%
1
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4
5
6
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8
9
10
11
12
13
14
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16
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18
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Elo Predicts!
4.5 70%
1
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Don't Blame the Data
6.5 70%
1
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4
5
6
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8
9
10
11
12
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14
15
16
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Live Ladders
6.3 72%
1
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8
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14
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16
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18
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Stattraction
5.9 70%
1
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5
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8
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Graft
5.9 70%
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ZaphBot
6.2 74%
1
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Squiggle
5.9 66%
1
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AFL Lab
12.1 102%
1
2
3
4
5
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8
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Informed Stats
12.7 105%
1
2
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Squiggle
11.8 101%
1
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ZaphBot
11.7 99%
1
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The Footycast
11.3 97%
1
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PlusSixOne
11.4
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Graft
11.4 98%
1
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Matter of Stats
11.0 96%
1
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Wheelo Ratings
10.9 96%
1
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4
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6
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8
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Live Ladders
11.2 96%
1
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Elo Predicts!
10.6 98%
1
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What Snoo Thinks
10.5 93%
1
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Stattraction
10.2 91%
1
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Don't Blame the Data
9.9 89%
1
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Glicko Ratings
8.8 85%
1
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Winnable
9.0 85%
1
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8
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AFLalytics
10.1 92%
1
2
3
4
5
6
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11
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Elo Predicts!
13.4 109%
1
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8
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10
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18
7
ZaphBot
12.3 107%
1
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9
Graft
12.2 108%
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What Snoo Thinks
12.2 109%
1
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Wheelo Ratings
11.6 105%
1
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9
PlusSixOne
11.6
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Squiggle
11.6 107%
1
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Matter of Stats
11.7 105%
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Informed Stats
11.9 107%
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AFL Lab
11.2 103%
1
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Live Ladders
11.3 103%
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Winnable
11.4 106%
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Stattraction
11.6 98%
1
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Don't Blame the Data
11.1 105%
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The Footycast
11.0 103%
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Glicko Ratings
10.4 101%
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AFLalytics
10.3 103%
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AFLalytics
7.3 68%
1
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PlusSixOne
3.8
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Winnable
4.0 64%
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Don't Blame the Data
4.3 65%
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AFL Lab
3.6 72%
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Glicko Ratings
3.6 64%
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Squiggle
4.0 64%
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Stattraction
3.9 60%
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Matter of Stats
3.0 63%
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Wheelo Ratings
3.0 65%
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Live Ladders
3.9 68%
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What Snoo Thinks
3.4 66%
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The Footycast
4.1 63%
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Graft
3.4 66%
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ZaphBot
2.8 68%
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Informed Stats
2.0 60%
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Elo Predicts!
0.9 64%
1
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Informed Stats
16.8 140%
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Graft
15.9 130%
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Winnable
15.5 129%
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Glicko Ratings
15.2 125%
1
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Matter of Stats
16.0 133%
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Stattraction
14.9 116%
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What Snoo Thinks
14.7 120%
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Elo Predicts!
16.7 124%
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The Footycast
14.9 132%
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Squiggle
14.9 130%
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Wheelo Ratings
15.3 126%
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AFL Lab
14.6 118%
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PlusSixOne
14.6
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Don't Blame the Data
14.4 123%
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Live Ladders
14.1 119%
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AFLalytics
12.3 111%
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ZaphBot
13.0 112%
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Live Hasn't factored in current round in progress Hasn't factored in last completed round

This ladder is a weighted average of all models: Full weighting 0% weighting 0% weighting

+ About ladder projections...

Ladder Projections are weirder than they first appear! It's natural to think that there are many possible ladders and we should simply pick the most likely one. The problem is there are far more possible ladders than you can imagine—more than the number of atoms in the universe. Even ignoring the number of wins and simply trying to rank teams in order, there are 6.4 quadrillion possible combinations.

Until there are only one or two rounds left, even the most likely ladder has no chance of actually occurring — the likelihood is so close to zero, it may as well be.

So we need to abandon any hope of being able to actually pick the final ladder. Instead, what we're attempting to do is to minimize the amount of error between our prediction and reality.

This raises a few subjective questions, such as: What is the most important part of a ladder? Is it the ranking or the number of wins? Because we can't always minimize the error in both at once.

This ladder cares most about ranks, because that determines finals positions. But ranks are derived from wins, and wins are more predictable — a good model should get the number of wins about right, but can easily miss the mark on ranks, since those can change sharply from only a few unexpected results, particularly around the middle of the ladder.

Projected ladders, then, are a series of compromises. They won't get everything right, and they often can't make one thing more right without making something else more wrong. Such quirks are the unavoidable result of attempting to distill a wide range of possible futures down into one single ladder — which will definitely be wrong, but is hopefully close.

Common Questions

Q. Why is the season tipped to be so close?

Most early-season projections will predict an unusually close year, tipping too few wins for the top team and too many for the wooden spooner. This isn't an error; it's because "How many wins will the top team have, whoever they turn out to be?" is actually a different question to "How many wins will Geelong have?" — even if we expect Geelong to finish on top!

It's highly likely that the minor premier will turn out to be a team that wins more games than people expected. But we can't know who this will be, since we can't predict who will be better than we predict.

It's the same as tossing a coin 10 times: If I'm predicting a ladder, I'd say heads and tails will each go 5-5, since this is their long-term average. I know that whichever one finishes on top will probably score 6 or more flips (75% chance), but I can't say which one that will be. I have to choose which question I want to get right: the number of wins for each team, or the number of wins of whoever finishes on top. If I choose to answer the first question, I will get a more accurate forecast of wins per team, but at the price of sacrificing some accuracy from the shape of the overall win distribution.

Q. Why is a team ranked lower even though it has more projected wins?

Usually because of percentage. When a team is projected to have "12.2 wins," this really means: "a bit more likely to have over 12 wins than under." At the end of the season, everyone will have whole numbers of wins (plus draws), and at this point, their ladder position may be determined by their percentage. Ladder projections based on tens of thousands of simulations can tally up the number of times this occurs and figure out which may matter more: an edge in projected wins or a lead in percentage.

It's also possible for this to happen because this is an aggregate Projected Ladder, combining the predictions of many different sources, and it prioritizes predicted ranks over anything else. So if, on average, the sources rank Port Adelaide higher than Richmond, that's where the Projected Ladder will place them, too. It will do this even if, on average, Richmond have higher both predicted wins and predicted percentage — which is possible because different models will have different ideas about how wins might be distributed. Fundamentally, the Projected Ladder trusts each source to interpret its own data and reach sensible conclusions about what this means in terms of likely finishing position.

It's also worth noting that there's a little more sophistication than meets the eye in how "average rank" is calculated. For sources that provide finish position estimates — those colourful bars that show how likely each team is to finish in each position — the Projected Ladder calculates true average finishing ranks, rather than relying on simple ordinals. For example, if a model says that West Coast have a 90% chance of finishing 1st and a 10% chance of finishing 2nd, their simple ordinal finishing rank is 1, while their true average finishing rank is 1.1. If they have a 60% chance of finishing 1st and a 40% chance of finishing 2nd, their simple ordinal rank is still 1, while their true average finishing rank is 1.4 — much closer to the midpoint of 1st and 2nd. In this way, the Projected Ladder is able to distinguish more precisely between teams predicted to finish close together.

Q. Why doesn't the ladder make logical sense?

Sometimes ladders don't add up to the exact right number of wins, or predict teams to finish in logically impossible places, such as tipping a team to finish 4th with one round to go when it must finish either 3rd or 5th. The natural human response is to think that if they can't get even such basic things right, they shouldn't be trusted at all. In fact, the ladder is probably prioritizing error minimization, and is likely to be more accurate, at least by that measure, than a ladder that insists on being logically possible.

After Round 8, 2025.

PROJECTIONS
W L D % History Wins Finish
1
Brisbane Lions 7 1 114.4%
+9.3
2
2
Collingwood 6 2 133.2%
+10.2
1
3
Hawthorn 6 2 125.6%
+9.0
5
4
Gold Coast 5 2 140.4%
+8.6
7
5
Adelaide 5 3 131.8%
+8.9
6
6
Western Bulldogs 5 3 127.1%
+10.2
4
7
Geelong 5 3 117.4%
+10.5
3
8
GWS 4 4 115.0%
+8.4
8
9
Fremantle 4 4 97.2%
+7.2
12
10
St Kilda 4 4 94.6%
+7.3
11
11
Essendon 4 3 88.6%
+5.8
14
12
Port Adelaide 4 4 87.9%
+6.6
13
13
Carlton 3 5 108.6%
+8.3
10
14
Sydney 3 5 97.2%
+8.8
9
15
Melbourne 3 5 81.6%
+5.2
15
16
Richmond 2 6 63.4%
+4.0
16
17
North Melbourne 1 7 76.4%
+4.1
17
18
West Coast 8 57.7%
+3.2
18

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